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FAQ

2021-02-24T09:25:24Z

Ulf.bjersing:

=Handling VehicleType in the European Passenger Information Profile=

'''Question 1:''' The EPIP example file ''NX-PI-01_LU_NAP_LINE_AVL-AVL-91_20210113.xml,'' that is available for download under https://data4pt-project.eu/knowledge-database/guidelines/, includes the data category '''''VehicleType'''''.

Is it correct to include the data category '''''VehicleType''''' in the '''''TimetableFrame''''' as as in the example?

'''Answer 1:''' Yes, the European Passenger Information Profile, ''CEN/TS 16614-4:2020,''(EPIP) states that the data category '''''VehicleType''''' can be provided in the '''''TimetableFrame.''''' See ''table 131 – TypeOfFrame: EU_PI_TIMETABLE in the documentation.''

'''Question 2:''' Are there other possibilities where to define the vehicle type?

'''Answer 2:''' Yes, the European Passenger Information Profile, ''CEN/TS 16614-4:2020,''(EPIP) actually also allows, as an option, that the data category '''''VehicleType''''' is instead provided in the '''''ResourceFrame.''''' See ''table Table 127 – TypeOfFrame: EU_PI_COMMON in the documentation.'' This second option is now (2021-02-24) also supported in the set of XSD-files available for download from the project website.

=How do you create C# classes from the NeTEx XSD?=

'''Answer''': It is possible to create C# classes in different ways.

There are many tools out there, but for instance, you could use the '''Microsoft xsd.exe''' tool or the '''mganss/XMLSchemaClassGenerator''' tool available on Github at https://github.com/mganss/XmlSchemaClassGenerator

Currently there are some issues if you try to use the official NeTEx XSD as a starting point with either of these tools.

However, the above-mentioned tools work fine if you use them together with an adapted set of XSD-files available from Data4PT. The file set is designed to be compatible with the official NeTEx XSD and to cover many important use cases. It does however not cover all use cases possible with the official schema. There is an interactive graphical presentation of the adapted and reduced XSD available at https://data4pt.org/NeTEx/GraphicKit/Documention_of_reduced_XSD.html

If you wish to try out this reduced XSD, you can download it at https://data4pt.org/NeTEx/GraphicKit/XSD_reduced.zip

The work steps if you are using the Microsoft tool are:

# Get the zipped XSD. Extract the ZIP to a folder.
# Make sure that you have a recent version of the xsd.exe. It is part of the .NET Framework Developer Pack and can be downloaded from https://dotnet.microsoft.com/download/dotnet-framework
# Install the developer pack. The xsd.exe will be placed in a folder with a path similar to ''C:\Program Files (x86)\Microsoft SDKs\Windows\v10.0A\bin\NETFX 4.8 Tools''
# Open a command prompt in the same folder as where the NeTEx_publication_reduced-NoConstraint.xsd resides.
# Execute the following command (you may have to adapt the path to xsd.exe): ''"C:\Program Files (x86)\Microsoft SDKs\Windows\v10.0A\bin\NETFX 4.8 Tools\xsd.exe" /c /language:C# gml_combo_v3_2_1_simplified.xsd NeTEx_publication_reduced-NoConstraint.xsd''

The work steps if you are using the MGANSS tool are:

# Get the zipped XSD. Extract the ZIP to a folder.
# Download and extract the binary from https://github.com/mganss/XmlSchemaClassGenerator/releases to a separate folder e.g. ''C:\MGANSS''.
# Open a command prompt in the same folder as where the NeTEx_publication_reduced-NoConstraint.xsd resides.
# Execute the following command (you may have to adapt the path to the exe): ''C:\MGANSS\XmlSchemaClassGenerator.Console.exe NeTEx_publication_reduced-NoConstraint.xsd -n <nowiki>http://www.opengis.net/gml/3.2=gml</nowiki> -v''

FAQ

2021-02-24T09:25:07Z

Ulf.bjersing: Added a post in the FAQ concerning VehicleType

=Handling VehicleTypes in the European Passenger Information Profile=

'''Question 1:''' The EPIP example file ''NX-PI-01_LU_NAP_LINE_AVL-AVL-91_20210113.xml,'' that is available for download under https://data4pt-project.eu/knowledge-database/guidelines/, includes the data category '''''VehicleType'''''.

Is it correct to include the data category '''''VehicleType''''' in the '''''TimetableFrame''''' as as in the example?

'''Answer 1:''' Yes, the European Passenger Information Profile, ''CEN/TS 16614-4:2020,''(EPIP) states that the data category '''''VehicleType''''' can be provided in the '''''TimetableFrame.''''' See ''table 131 – TypeOfFrame: EU_PI_TIMETABLE in the documentation.''

'''Question 2:''' Are there other possibilities where to define the vehicle type?

'''Answer 2:''' Yes, the European Passenger Information Profile, ''CEN/TS 16614-4:2020,''(EPIP) actually also allows, as an option, that the data category '''''VehicleType''''' is instead provided in the '''''ResourceFrame.''''' See ''table Table 127 – TypeOfFrame: EU_PI_COMMON in the documentation.'' This second option is now (2021-02-24) also supported in the set of XSD-files available for download from the project website.

=How do you create C# classes from the NeTEx XSD?=

'''Answer''': It is possible to create C# classes in different ways.

There are many tools out there, but for instance, you could use the '''Microsoft xsd.exe''' tool or the '''mganss/XMLSchemaClassGenerator''' tool available on Github at https://github.com/mganss/XmlSchemaClassGenerator

Currently there are some issues if you try to use the official NeTEx XSD as a starting point with either of these tools.

However, the above-mentioned tools work fine if you use them together with an adapted set of XSD-files available from Data4PT. The file set is designed to be compatible with the official NeTEx XSD and to cover many important use cases. It does however not cover all use cases possible with the official schema. There is an interactive graphical presentation of the adapted and reduced XSD available at https://data4pt.org/NeTEx/GraphicKit/Documention_of_reduced_XSD.html

If you wish to try out this reduced XSD, you can download it at https://data4pt.org/NeTEx/GraphicKit/XSD_reduced.zip

The work steps if you are using the Microsoft tool are:

# Get the zipped XSD. Extract the ZIP to a folder.
# Make sure that you have a recent version of the xsd.exe. It is part of the .NET Framework Developer Pack and can be downloaded from https://dotnet.microsoft.com/download/dotnet-framework
# Install the developer pack. The xsd.exe will be placed in a folder with a path similar to ''C:\Program Files (x86)\Microsoft SDKs\Windows\v10.0A\bin\NETFX 4.8 Tools''
# Open a command prompt in the same folder as where the NeTEx_publication_reduced-NoConstraint.xsd resides.
# Execute the following command (you may have to adapt the path to xsd.exe): ''"C:\Program Files (x86)\Microsoft SDKs\Windows\v10.0A\bin\NETFX 4.8 Tools\xsd.exe" /c /language:C# gml_combo_v3_2_1_simplified.xsd NeTEx_publication_reduced-NoConstraint.xsd''

The work steps if you are using the MGANSS tool are:

# Get the zipped XSD. Extract the ZIP to a folder.
# Download and extract the binary from https://github.com/mganss/XmlSchemaClassGenerator/releases to a separate folder e.g. ''C:\MGANSS''.
# Open a command prompt in the same folder as where the NeTEx_publication_reduced-NoConstraint.xsd resides.
# Execute the following command (you may have to adapt the path to the exe): ''C:\MGANSS\XmlSchemaClassGenerator.Console.exe NeTEx_publication_reduced-NoConstraint.xsd -n <nowiki>http://www.opengis.net/gml/3.2=gml</nowiki> -v''

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2021-02-12T08:51:45Z

Ulf.bjersing:

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FAQ

2021-02-02T07:01:05Z

Ulf.bjersing:

=How do you create C# classes from the NeTEx XSD?=

'''Answer''': It is possible to create C# classes in different ways.

There are many tools out there, but for instance, you could use the '''Microsoft xsd.exe''' tool or the '''mganss/XMLSchemaClassGenerator''' tool available on Github at https://github.com/mganss/XmlSchemaClassGenerator

Currently there are some issues if you try to use the official NeTEx XSD as a starting point with either of these tools.

However, the above-mentioned tools work fine if you use them together with an adapted set of XSD-files available from Data4PT. The file set is designed to be compatible with the official NeTEx XSD and to cover many important use cases. It does however not cover all use cases possible with the official schema. There is an interactive graphical presentation of the adapted and reduced XSD available at https://data4pt.org/NeTEx/GraphicKit/Documention_of_reduced_XSD.html

If you wish to try out this reduced XSD, you can download it at https://data4pt.org/NeTEx/GraphicKit/XSD_reduced.zip

The work steps if you are using the Microsoft tool are:

# Get the zipped XSD. Extract the ZIP to a folder.
# Make sure that you have a recent version of the xsd.exe. It is part of the .NET Framework Developer Pack and can be downloaded from https://dotnet.microsoft.com/download/dotnet-framework
# Install the developer pack. The xsd.exe will be placed in a folder with a path similar to ''C:\Program Files (x86)\Microsoft SDKs\Windows\v10.0A\bin\NETFX 4.8 Tools''
# Open a command prompt in the same folder as where the NeTEx_publication_reduced-NoConstraint.xsd resides.
# Execute the following command (you may have to adapt the path to xsd.exe): ''"C:\Program Files (x86)\Microsoft SDKs\Windows\v10.0A\bin\NETFX 4.8 Tools\xsd.exe" /c /language:C# gml_combo_v3_2_1_simplified.xsd NeTEx_publication_reduced-NoConstraint.xsd''

The work steps if you are using the MGANSS tool are:

# Get the zipped XSD. Extract the ZIP to a folder.
# Download and extract the binary from https://github.com/mganss/XmlSchemaClassGenerator/releases to a separate folder e.g. ''C:\MGANSS''.
# Open a command prompt in the same folder as where the NeTEx_publication_reduced-NoConstraint.xsd resides.
# Execute the following command (you may have to adapt the path to the exe): ''C:\MGANSS\XmlSchemaClassGenerator.Console.exe NeTEx_publication_reduced-NoConstraint.xsd -n <nowiki>http://www.opengis.net/gml/3.2=gml</nowiki> -v''

FAQ

2021-02-02T06:57:41Z

Ulf.bjersing: /* How do you create C# classes from the NeTEx XSD? */

=How do you create C# classes from the NeTEx XSD?=

'''Answer''': It is possible to create C# classes in different ways.

There are many tools out there, but for instance, you could use the '''Microsoft xsd.exe''' tool or the '''mganss/XMLSchemaClassGenerator''' tool available on Github at https://github.com/mganss/XmlSchemaClassGenerator

Currently there are some issues if you try to use the official NeTEx XSD as a starting point with either of these tools.

However, the above mentioned tools work fine if you use them together with certain set of XSD-files available from Data4PT. The file set is designed to be compatible with the official NeTEx XSD and to cover many important use cases. It does however not cover all use cases possible with the offical schema. There is an interactive graphical presentation of the adapted and reduced XSD available at https://data4pt.org/NeTEx/GraphicKit/Documention_of_reduced_XSD.html

If you wish to try out this reduced XSD, you can download it at https://data4pt.org/NeTEx/GraphicKit/XSD_reduced.zip

The work steps if you are using the Microsoft tool are:

# Get the zipped XSD. Extract the ZIP to a folder.
# Make sure that you have a recent version of the xsd.exe. It is part of the .NET Framework Developer Pack and can be downloaded from https://dotnet.microsoft.com/download/dotnet-framework
# Install the developer pack. The xsd.exe will be placed in a folder with a path similar to ''C:\Program Files (x86)\Microsoft SDKs\Windows\v10.0A\bin\NETFX 4.8 Tools''
# Open a command prompt in the same folder as where the NeTEx_publication_reduced-NoConstraint.xsd resides.
# Execute the following command (you may have to adapt the path to xsd.exe): ''"C:\Program Files (x86)\Microsoft SDKs\Windows\v10.0A\bin\NETFX 4.8 Tools\xsd.exe" /c /language:C# gml_combo_v3_2_1_simplified.xsd NeTEx_publication_reduced-NoConstraint.xsd''

The work steps if you are using the MGANSS tool are:

# Get the zipped XSD. Extract the ZIP to a folder.
# Download and extract the binary from https://github.com/mganss/XmlSchemaClassGenerator/releases to a separate folder e.g. ''C:\MGANSS''.
# Open a command prompt in the same folder as where the NeTEx_publication_reduced-NoConstraint.xsd resides.
# Execute the following command (you may have to adapt the path to the exe): ''C:\MGANSS\XmlSchemaClassGenerator.Console.exe NeTEx_publication_reduced-NoConstraint.xsd -n <nowiki>http://www.opengis.net/gml/3.2=gml</nowiki> -v''

FAQ

2021-02-01T11:25:12Z

Ulf.bjersing:

=How do you create C# classes from the NeTEx XSD?=

'''Answer''': It is possible to create C# classes in different ways.

There are many tools out there, but for instance, you could use the '''Microsoft xsd.exe''' tool or the '''mganss/XMLSchemaClassGenerator''' tool available on Github at https://github.com/mganss/XmlSchemaClassGenerator

Currently there are some issues if you try to use the official NeTEx XSD as a starting point with either of these tools.

However, the above mentioned tools work fine if you use them together with certain set of XSD-files available from Data4PT. The file set is designed to be compatible with the official NeTEx XSD and to cover many important use cases. It does however not cover all use cases possible with the offical schema. There is an interactive graphical presentation of the adapted and reduced XSD available at https://data4pt.org/NeTEx/GraphicKit/Documention_of_reduced_XSD.html

If you wish to try out this reduced XSD, you can download it at https://data4pt.org/NeTEx/GraphicKit/XSD_reduced.zip

The work steps if you are using the Microsoft tool are:

# Get the zipped XSD. Extract the ZIP to a folder.
# Make sure that you have a recent version of the xsd.exe. It is part of the .NET Framework Developer Pack and can be downloaded from https://dotnet.microsoft.com/download/dotnet-framework
# Install the developer pack. The xsd.exe will be placed in a folder with a path similar to ''C:\Program Files (x86)\Microsoft SDKs\Windows\v10.0A\bin\NETFX 4.8 Tools''
# Open a command prompt in the same folder as where the NeTEx_publication_reduced-NoConstraint.xsd resides.
# Execute the following command (you may have to adapt the path to xsd.exe): ''"C:\Program Files (x86)\Microsoft SDKs\Windows\v10.0A\bin\NETFX 4.8 Tools\xsd.exe" /c /language:C# gml_combo_v3_2_1_simplified.xsd NeTEx_publication_reduced-NoConstraint.xsd''

The work steps if you are using the MGANSS tool are:

# Get the zipped XSD. Extract the ZIP to a folder with a path such as ''C:\tmp\codegen_M''.
# Download the binary from https://github.com/mganss/XmlSchemaClassGenerator/releases and expand it to a separate folder.
# Open a command prompt in the same folder as where the NeTEx_publication_reduced-NoConstraint.xsd resides.
# Execute the following command (you may have to adapt the path to the exe): ''C:\tmp\codegen_M\XmlSchemaClassGenerator.Console.exe NeTEx_publication_reduced-NoConstraint.xsd -n <nowiki>http://www.opengis.net/gml/3.2=gml</nowiki> -v''

FAQ

2021-02-01T11:19:35Z

Ulf.bjersing:

=How do you create C# classes from the NeTEx XSD?=

'''Answer''': It is possible to create C# classes in different ways.

There are many tools out there, but for instance, you could use the '''Microsoft xsd.exe''' tool or the '''mganss/XMLSchemaClassGenerator''' tool available on Github at https://github.com/mganss/XmlSchemaClassGenerator

Currently there are some issues if you try to use the official NeTEx XSD as a starting point with either of these tools.

However, the above mentioned tools work fine if you use them together with another set of XSD-files available from Data4PT. The file set is designed to be compatible with the official NeTEx XSD. A limitation is that does not cover all use cases. There is an interactive graphical presentation of the adapted and reduced XSD available at https://data4pt.org/NeTEx/GraphicKit/Documention_of_reduced_XSD.html

If you wish to try out this reduced XSD, you can download it at https://data4pt.org/NeTEx/GraphicKit/XSD_reduced.zip

The work steps if you are using the Microsoft tool are:

# Get the zipped XSD. Extract the ZIP to a folder.
# Make sure that you have a recent version of the xsd.exe. It is part of the .NET Framework Developer Pack and can be downloaded from https://dotnet.microsoft.com/download/dotnet-framework
# Install the developer pack. The xsd.exe will be placed in a folder with a path similar to ''C:\Program Files (x86)\Microsoft SDKs\Windows\v10.0A\bin\NETFX 4.8 Tools''
# Open a command prompt in the same folder as where the NeTEx_publication_reduced-NoConstraint.xsd resides.
# Execute the following command (you may have to adapt the path to xsd.exe): ''"C:\Program Files (x86)\Microsoft SDKs\Windows\v10.0A\bin\NETFX 4.8 Tools\xsd.exe" /c /language:C# gml_combo_v3_2_1_simplified.xsd NeTEx_publication_reduced-NoConstraint.xsd''

The work steps if you are using the MGANSS tool are:

# Get the zipped XSD. Extract the ZIP to a folder with a path such as ''C:\tmp\codegen_M''.
# Download the binary from https://github.com/mganss/XmlSchemaClassGenerator/releases and expand it to a separate folder.
# Open a command prompt in the same folder as where the NeTEx_publication_reduced-NoConstraint.xsd resides.
# Execute the following command (you may have to adapt the path to the exe): ''C:\tmp\codegen_M\XmlSchemaClassGenerator.Console.exe NeTEx_publication_reduced-NoConstraint.xsd -n <nowiki>http://www.opengis.net/gml/3.2=gml</nowiki> -v''

FAQ

2021-02-01T11:06:50Z

Ulf.bjersing:

'''Question''': How can you create C# classes from the NeTEx XSD?

'''Answer''': It is possible to create C# classes in different ways.

There are many tools out there, but for instance, you could use the '''Microsoft xsd.exe''' tool or the '''mganss/XMLSchemaClassGenerator''' tool available on Github at https://github.com/mganss/XmlSchemaClassGenerator

Currently there are some issues if you try to use the official NeTEx XSD as a starting point with either of these tools.

However, the above mentioned tools work fine if you use them together with another set of XSD-files available from Data4PT. The file set is designed to be compatible with the official NeTEx XSD. A limitation is that does not cover all use cases.

If you wish to try out this reduced XSD, you can download it at https://data4pt.org/NeTEx/GraphicKit/XSD_reduced.zip

The work steps if you are using the Microsoft tool are:

# Get the zipped XSD. Extract the ZIP to a folder.
# Make sure that you have a recent version of the xsd.exe. It is part of the .NET Framework Developer Pack and can be downloaded from https://dotnet.microsoft.com/download/dotnet-framework
# Install the developer pack. The xsd.exe will be placed in a folder with a path similar to ''C:\Program Files (x86)\Microsoft SDKs\Windows\v10.0A\bin\NETFX 4.8 Tools''
# Open a command prompt in the same folder as where the NeTEx_publication_reduced-NoConstraint.xsd resides.
# Execute the following command (you may have to adapt the path to xsd.exe): ''"C:\Program Files (x86)\Microsoft SDKs\Windows\v10.0A\bin\NETFX 4.8 Tools\xsd.exe" /c /language:C# gml_combo_v3_2_1_simplified.xsd NeTEx_publication_reduced-NoConstraint.xsd''

The work steps if you are using the MGANSS tool are:

# Get the zipped XSD. Extract the ZIP to a folder with a path such as ''C:\tmp\codegen_M''.
# Download the binary from https://github.com/mganss/XmlSchemaClassGenerator/releases and expand it to a separate folder.
# Open a command prompt in the same folder as where the NeTEx_publication_reduced-NoConstraint.xsd resides.
# Execute the following command (you may have to adapt the path to the exe): ''C:\tmp\codegen_M\XmlSchemaClassGenerator.Console.exe NeTEx_publication_reduced-NoConstraint.xsd -n <nowiki>http://www.opengis.net/gml/3.2=gml</nowiki> -v''

FAQ

2021-02-01T11:05:11Z

Ulf.bjersing:

'''Question''': How can you create C# classes from the NeTEx XSD?

'''Answer''': It is possible to create C# classes in different ways.

There are many tools out there, but for instance, you could use the '''Microsoft xsd.exe''' tool or the '''mganss/XMLSchemaClassGenerator''' tool available on Github [https://github.com/mganss/XmlSchemaClassGenerator]

Currently there are some issues if you try to use the official NeTEx XSD as a starting point with either of these tools.

However, the above mentioned tools work fine if you use them together with another set of XSD-files available from Data4PT. The file set is designed to be compatible with the official NeTEx XSD. A limitation is that does not cover all use cases.

If you wish to try out this reduced XSD, you can download it at https://data4pt.org/NeTEx/GraphicKit/XSD_reduced.zip

The work steps if you are using the Microsoft tool are:

# Get the zipped XSD. Extract the ZIP to a folder.
# Make sure that you have a recent version of the xsd.exe. It is part of the .NET Framework Developer Pack and can be downloaded from https://dotnet.microsoft.com/download/dotnet-framework
# Install the developer pack. The xsd.exe will be placed in a folder with a path similar to ''C:\Program Files (x86)\Microsoft SDKs\Windows\v10.0A\bin\NETFX 4.8 Tools''
# Open a command prompt in the same folder as where the NeTEx_publication_reduced-NoConstraint.xsd resides.
# Execute the following command (you may have to adapt the path to xsd.exe): ''"C:\Program Files (x86)\Microsoft SDKs\Windows\v10.0A\bin\NETFX 4.8 Tools\xsd.exe" /c /language:C# gml_combo_v3_2_1_simplified.xsd NeTEx_publication_reduced-NoConstraint.xsd''

The work steps if you are using the MGANSS tool are:

# Get the zipped XSD. Extract the ZIP to a folder with a path such as ''C:\tmp\codegen_M''.
# Download the binary from https://github.com/mganss/XmlSchemaClassGenerator/releases and expand it to a separate folder.
# Open a command prompt in the same folder as where the NeTEx_publication_reduced-NoConstraint.xsd resides.
# Execute the following command (you may have to adapt the path to the exe): ''C:\tmp\codegen_M\XmlSchemaClassGenerator.Console.exe NeTEx_publication_reduced-NoConstraint.xsd -n <nowiki>http://www.opengis.net/gml/3.2=gml</nowiki> -v''

FAQ

2021-02-01T09:23:41Z

Ulf.bjersing:

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'''Question''': How can you create C# classes from the NeTEx XSD?

'''Answer''': The Data4PT project has developed some separate XSD-files that can be used to generate C# code.

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FAQ

2021-02-01T09:21:42Z

Ulf.bjersing:

'''Question''': How can you create C# classes from the NeTEx XSD? When I tried using the full
'''Answer''': The Data4PT project has developed some separate XSD-files that can be used to generate C# code.

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FAQ

2020-10-28T07:49:08Z

Ulf.bjersing:

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'''Question:'''

Where can I find more info about the Data4PT project?

'''Answer:'''

Please visit the home page of this project at: [https://data4pt-project.eu/ Data4PT]

FAQ

2020-10-28T07:48:45Z

Ulf.bjersing:

(TEST)

'''Question:'''

Where can I find more info about the Data4PT project?

'''Answer:'''

Please visit the home page of this project at:[https://data4pt-project.eu/ Data4PT]

FAQ

2020-10-28T07:48:34Z

Ulf.bjersing:

(TEST)

'''Question:'''

Where can I find more info about the Data4PT project?

'''Answer:'''
Please visit the home page of this project at:[https://data4pt-project.eu/ Data4PT]

FAQ

2020-10-28T07:47:03Z

Ulf.bjersing:

(TEST) Where can I find more info about the Data4PT project?

Please visit the home page of this project at:[https://data4pt-project.eu/ Data4PT]

FAQ

2020-10-28T07:46:01Z

Ulf.bjersing: Created page with "(TEST) Where can I find more info about the Data4PT project? Please visit the home page of this project at:"

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2020-10-28T07:28:45Z

Ulf.bjersing: